• Franck
    Each year, Rétromobile, in the heart of winter, launches the season and lets you see the market trends. Which Ferrari will be in the spotlight this year? Which Ferrari will be on sale? What is the market trend? What new Ferrari books are coming out? Which coachbuilders and vendors stand out and have the wind in their sails? What have the different event organizers prepared for 2018? Retromobile allows you to make a first round of these questions.

    The 50th anniversary of the Ferrari Daytona
    With the 50th anniversary of the iconic Ferrari Daytona being celebrated this year, you could see a lot in this 2018 edition of Rétromobile. You could see the stand of Ferrari Classiche, which seems the least of things, but also on stands of insurers, who know how to put forward.

    In all I counted a dozen Ferrari Daytona present at Rétromobile, which makes it the most present Ferrari! This is exceptional ! Exceptional also, the fact that among this dozen Ferrari Daytona, you could admire two beautiful copies of Ferrari Daytona Spider!

    On the Ferrari Classiche stand, the dust-covered Ferrari Daytona, with cat's footprints, was Japan's famous "barn exit".
    A good ten Ferrari 250 GT Passo Corto
    Equally exceptional, there were almost as many Ferrari 250 GT Passo Corto (or SWB for Short Wheel Base in English) present and mostly almost all on one stand, that of Lukas Hüni. This model is probably my favorite in the classic Ferrari, so seeing as many gathered, I was thrilled!

    A unique copy was present in the lot: the Ferrari 250 GT SWB bodied by Bertone and which is rarely visible. Unfortunately for the photos, he was exposed in the middle of the stand, with many spots shining on his dark blue body.

    The other classic Ferrari
    Among the other classic Ferrari, you first noticed three Ferrari 250 GT Cabriolet: a series 1, a series 2 and a California. All three in beautiful condition.

    You then noticed all the Ferrari 275 GTBs present. I counted no less than six. There was also a blue Ferrari 250 GTE, a red Ferrari 275 GTS presented by Gallery Aaldering or a grey Ferrari 330.

    You could also meet, at the turn of a stand, a Ferrari 166 MM, one of the first Ferrari produced by Ferrari. Some Dino were present at Retromobile, but much less than in previous years, from my point of view, as if the fad was a little past.

    Among the rarities, a Ferrari 212 export Vignale from 1951 was exhibited on the stand of Gallery Aaldering. A very nice Ferrari 250 GT Lusso was next to the Sport & Collection stand.

    Ferrari F1 and competition
    Several F1s of the 90s, driven by Alain Prost, Jean Alesi and Gerahrd Berger were present in the alleys of Rétromobile 2018. You could also admire a Ferrari 512 M, driven by David Piper, as well as a Ferrari 512 BB LM of the Ecurie Francorchamps, driven by Beurlys.


    Ferrari under 40 years
    This year there was from my point of view much less recent Ferrari on the stands of different sellers. The list is not exhaustive, but if I look at my photos, I count: two Ferrari F40s, including one on the Movendi stand, a Ferrari Enzo auction, two Ferrari F355, some Ferrari 308 and 328, and two Ferrari BB 512 including a beautiful, restored, brown / gold.

    Following the recent death of Johnny Halliday, one of the trends of this 2018 edition of Rétromobile was the cars that belonged to him. A Ferrari 512 TR, which will be auctioned in March, was exhibited on the Osenat stand.

    Lamborghini Miura at the Polo Storico
    There are many other very interesting automobiles in Retromobiles apart from Ferrari. For example, you can see your grandmother's Renault 4cv, or your father's Renautl 9, in the youngtimers section. You also have Renault taxis of the early twentieth century that offered you a ride outside the exhibition halls.

    My favorite, because it was really beautiful, was the Lamborghini Miura Verde presented on the stand of the Polo Storico Lamborghini. This is another trend, with the presence of the manufacturers' restoration centers at Rétromobile. They all play, including Ferrari, on their archives that they stage to assert their strong point.
    Rétromobile is also a lot of meetings. I had the chance to visit backcountry this year with @Mike051 and Olivier. We met other members of Ferrarista on site, according to the aisles, whose @LUDO and @Caesar Nello.
    This event allows you to take the time to chat with other enthusiasts around the models.

    After a 2017 edition of Rétromobile devoted among other things to the 70th anniversary of Ferrari, this 2018 edition could have seemed very bland to the owners of Ferrari. It is not, as you have read, with, among others, the 50 years of the Ferrari Daytona and the dozen Ferrari 250 GT SWB present.

    Have you been to Retromobile 2018? What are the Ferrari and other models that have the most marked you? What did you notice about the auctions? Do you have questions if you could not get there?

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    The Ferrari California, in its version that appeared in 2009, represents a great commercial success for Ferrari, which brought a new clientele to the brand. Its residual value remains important and finding a good example is difficult, as for any Ferrari. How to do ? What are the associated costs? What to do to find one and how does it feel once his steering wheel is in your hands? The best thing is to ask these questions to an owner and it is @Calif38 who tells us about his acquisition.

    Franck: What is your driving career quickly and why did you choose the Ferrari California?
    Calif38: My first was a Renault 5 GT Turbo, it was the time of the first job and of driving in rallies. Then it was my first convertible, a Renault 19 Karman, with romantic outings: Corsica, Loire Valley and its castles.
    And my 3rd car was a Miata, for its evocation of English 60s car, in a modern version, reliable and comfortable. Then a BMW Z4 35i DKG for its interior / exterior design and its evocation of the BMW 507, another leading automotive design, elegance and lifestyle. Ferrari was for me a dream like any passionate kid who collected the Burago models and closely followed the release of the Ferrari Testa Rossa and the Ferrari  F40.

    Franck: What were your criteria for buying a Ferrari California and how did you find that copy?  
    Calif38: Ferrari was a brand unthinkable for its acquisition and maintenance costs until my professional and personal situation led me to realize that it is not really inaccessible anymore. It started with meeting a Ferrari 250 GT in Grigio and when I come across a Ferrari California 30 at Pozzi in the same shade. I find the evocation of a legendary former convertible, event a CC, with a motorization of character and interior design and level of finish in my taste.
    But owning a Porsche also tempts me and during a visit to a pro who offers a 991 and a Ferrari California, I felt in love for this model in Grigio Medio, an historic hue. This is my favorite and the copy is perfect, with a clear history and a big service just done. It had 18,000 km and still under a Power Warranty. She had only 2 owners in 6 years.

    Franck: Immediately after the purchase, what has impressed you the most on your Ferrari California?  
    Calif38: My Ferrari experience begins then. An experience of all senses, sight, smell, it has a subtle fragrance between leather luggage and a discreet smell of beautiful mechanics. It is a pure happiness and a reconquest each time. On board, we feel this DNA race, performance. Its chassis is remarkable, a direction and a millimeter placement, a perfect load distribution.  
    A comfortable, efficient car, with which it is possible to cruise quietly or accelerate strong enough to stay together with others Ferrari F430, on very sinuous and rolling portions. It is a versatile model, a successful synthesis between a sportivness and comfort thanks to a fantastic gearbox.  
    Franck: Can you tell us about the costs involved for normal use of a Ferrari California?  
    Calif38: I just did the annual service for 1,000 euros. During the first kilometers, I found a lot of soot on the rear bumper. This phenomenon disappeared after 1,500 km, probably due to an urban use by the previous owner.
    It is a vehicle that gives us, with my wife, a lot of pleasure and reactivate a passion for the automobile and the brand.

    Franck: And if you had to do it again?  
    Calif38: We are very happy with our choice and had the chance to be at the 70th anniversary of Ferrari in Maranello and live this with our two teenagers who had the banana smile.
    We think to keep this model in a rare combo and have the desire to own a second one. A V12? The dream or a rear V8, for more sportivness, which allowed to live the passion on the sporting side without competing with our GT model and in this case a spider once again ...

    A big THANK YOU to @Calif38 for all these details!  
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    On Monday October 16, 2017, Ferrarista members were invited by the Modena Motors dealership to drive their Ferrari on the Anneau du Rhin circuit, as well as to test the Ferrari and Maserati ranges. A good opportunity to spend great time with other members, to make you happy driving your Ferrari and to forge your own opinion on the current range, even if the trap ... is to succumb to the novelty. Many members participated in all or part of the event, including @Ga68, @bernwizard, @JMM91, @Zaz, @Cyril68, @F355QV70, @Blaze, @Giallo-54.   Ferrarista dinner at the Domaine du Moulin in Ensisheim   Sunday, October 15, for members who came from far away and the locals not available the next day, was organized a Ferrari cruising on the most beautiful roads in the area. Some did not hesitate to make more than 500 kilometers for the occasion! A great sun, beautiful landscapes, enthusiasts, what more?     A dinner was then organized to discover and enjoy local specialties. It allowed all the group present to get to know each other, before turning on the circuit the next day. Thank you to @Zaz for the organization of this dinner and hotel reservations. The Domaine du Moulin in Essisheim was perfect! Wine for breakfast and homemade jams, we are not ready to forget! There was even the pool and sauna for those who took the time.   Anneau du Rhin circuit   The next day, on the Anneau du Rhin circuit, the track is in free access. This allows everyone to go at their own pace. An instructor is available to improve your driving throughout the day. The top, on a track where few vehicles drive at the same time.   These sessions also allow you to see and hear other Ferrari on the track, including the new Ferrari 812 Superfast and Ferrari GTC4Lusso. The sound of their V12 at full load is remarkable, compared to that of the V8, which are however not left out. The sound level is the highest at the passage of the Ferrari F430 Challenge. It has no road homologation standards to follow, while they have not stopped reducing the volume of Ferrari in recent years.     The lunch allowed you to admire the old Ferrari concession present on the spot, on which give the bay windows of the room of the meal. Cars, especially racing cars, are always stored there. Lunch is also an opportunity to discuss further with all participants.   Testing the Ferrari and Maserati ranges   The highlight of the day, from my point of view, were the tests of the Ferrari and Maserati ranges. Everyone booked a slot and a vehicle at the Modena Motors dealership before coming. But in the end we could test more than expected.   For my part, I started my tests with the Ferrari 488 Spider. It's the one I reserved. She was white and convertible, to enjoy the big sun that day. I pass on the first meters realized in automatic mode. At 50 km/h, you are already on the 7th gear, in a silence and comfort such that you are no longer in my definition of a Ferrari. I understand that it meets the needs of a certain clientele.     So I moved quickly into more sporty modes by turning the manettino. And here it is immediately more enjoyable! The sound is omnipresent, despite the turbos, and even more at low revs. It's very nice, especially since the car is very responsive. I was able to make a second test as a passenger, which confirmed me as it is fabulous as a sportcar usable daily.   The Ferrari 812 Superfast is not in the same league. You are in a coupe, sitting almost on the rear wheels, it is more impressive with its 800 horsepowers! But the grip is just as easy, in automatic mode at 50 km/h on the 7th gear. Everyone can drive it!     If you turn the manettino and raise the tone, it is however very different. The elasticity of the engine and the sound of the V12 have nothing to do with the Ferrari 488. The way the power is delivered either. And what is very impressive is the agility in fast turns, thanks to the four-wheel steering! A ballerina. And probably my favorite test. A world separates it from the Ferrari 599 GTB, which is already a superb Ferrari.   I also tested the Ferrari GTC4Lusso. I'm not a fan of the look, but inside, to travel with your family, it's fabulous. The V12 is present, with its qualities, including vocalises. It is not a sportcar, as the 812 Superfast knows to be if it is needed, but a very good GT.   After having made a second test in the rear passenger seat, the electrochromic roof is essential, because it gives the impression, behind, that you are the front passenger. You enjoy a panoramic view that avoids any feeling of clautrophobia, in its rear seats that are comfortable but not very big.     When is the next time?   I had a great time thanks to the members present and the Modena Motors dealership. Thank you ! A big thank-you ! Too bad there were not even more members of Ferrarista to enjoy this event. Maybe for the next, because it was a first.   And you, what was your opinion on this release, if you participated? And if not, do you think that this type of event should be reiterated? Would you participate? How can we improve it? Thank you for your feedback.   If you liked this article, you will also like: - 50 Ferrarista members at the 70th anniversary of Ferrari in Maranello - 32 members and 19 Ferrari at the charity event at Le Havre - 24 members Visiting Maranello and the Mille Miglia 2016 - Where should you have your Ferrari serviced? - Long term test: Guillaume84's Ferrari F430
    Ferrari has just celebrated its 70th birthday in Maranello and a fifty members of Ferrarista made the trip for the occasion. Half went on a five-day trip organized by Ferrarista. So what did you have access to? Was the trip worth it? What did the members of Ferrarista have seen?     Ferrari Parade Ferrari in Maranello   Ferrari had organized a rally from several major cities in Europe. But we decided to go directly to Maranello to make the most of the festivities there ... and to make some complementary visits (Pagani, Maserati, Lamborghini, etc.).  
    On Saturday morning, September 10, we were on the Via Abetone Inferiore, in Maranello, which passes in front of the historic entrance of the factory Ferrari, to enjoy the parade of the 120 Ferrari participating in the contest of elegance. The rally organized by Ferrari with the modern Ferrari did not arrive until late afternoon.   This parade was really impressive. I've seen a lot of them, but never as many priceless old Ferraris in a row. Imagine the Mille Miglia whose all cars would be uniquely Ferrari. Huge ! All in an excited atmosphere, with lots of spotters filming and taking pictures. There are people, but not too many. You can see the Ferraris, who pass twice in the street.     Exhibition of the contest of elegance in Modena
    Saturday morning, these 120 Ferrari of the contest of elegance then leave for Modena. We return to the hotel to take our Ferrari. Fortunately, the hotel is located only 200 meters from the historic entrance of the Ferrari factory and we are quickly in our Ferrari. It was our turn to parade in convoy in Maranello, which means that we find ourselves on many videos and photos of spotters. A few seconds of glory ... but it is always a pleasure to be in a video about such an event.     We arrive in Modena at the same time as the convoy of the 120 Ferrari of the contest of elegance because we took the fast lane. The police and organizers force us to follow the 120 Ferrari convoy. It's always a pleasure to be at the heart of the party! At the Ferrari Museum in Modena, we arrive when the 120 Ferrari parade has just passed, which frees us some parking spaces just at the right time.     We are then very close to the place of the Military Academy where all the Ferrari of the concours of elegance are exposed. We cross a park and we are there, just in time to see the latest Ferrari arrive, in an atmosphere worthy of the Mille Miglia in Brescia. The Ferrari gently crack the crowd and amazed.
    On the square, many people hurry to admire the Ferrari under a great sun. After seeing these Ferrari in motion, it's time to detail them at the stop. As always, when we return after the lunch break, there are far fewer people around the Ferrari. This is the perfect time to photograph them.
    Accreditation for the festivities of the 70 years of Ferrari     But we are in a hurry! We had information that we, as owners of Ferrari, could withdraw accreditations to participate in the festivities of the 70 years of Ferrari on the circuit of Fiorano. Unbelievable ! It would be enough to provide the gray card of our car and two pieces of ID to get the pass for the owner and a companion.     However Ferrari had disseminated the information that this would only be possible for owners registered for the rally and billed between 4 and 5,000 euros. Ferrari even asked the owners not to come tp this event if not registered for the rally. We want to go quickly to the Ferrari Museum in Maranello where the accreditations are provided, in case the number of places is limited or if this possibility is reduced to a few hours.     On the spot, not everyone gets easy accreditation. It depends on the person behind the wicket, the speech held, the number of people, etc. But in the end, almost all the members of Ferrarista present manage to get their pass!   Ferrari auction   With our accreditations, we change our program to make the most of this opportunity. Let's go to the circuit of Fiorano where the festivities have started. Starting with the auction. An enormous open-air theater was mounted for the occasion at the edge of the circuit. Sales follow one another, filmed for live broadcast. Prices are high for some models. Others create the show, as when the Ferrari 333SP is on the podium. What a 12-cylinder sound!    
    Many big booths have been mounted on this side of the track: an open-bar to quench your thirst, sponsor booths presenting their products and offering goodies, a booth of presentation of the all-new Ferrari Portofino, showing the rest of the Ferrari range, whose doors are open to you, etc. In the middle are exhibited by class, the 120 Ferrari of the concours of elegance. That's wonderful. On the second part of the circuit, the 500 Ferrari of the rally park as they arrive. The crowd jubilant before the entrance of the circuit asks them to roar the engine of their Ferrari.  
    The Ferrarista dinner  
    On Saturday night, Ferrarista created the event in the event with a dinner in the heart of Maranello. It brought together some fifty members in the best restaurant in the region, according to TripAdvisor: @Titof, @Stradale V8, @grhum, @Red and hot, @Boz352, @chris38, @Vincent993, @Calif38, @LINO27, @JMM91,  @Zaz, @VIF ECLAIR, @nico170781, @EZ98, @bernwizard, @super_goozy, @308gt4, @ppi.sud77, @Dulabourd, @antorzr,@golfeur77, @Trois cinquante cinq and their accompanying persons.     It is the occasion to put heads on pseudonyms and to blow the candles of the 70 years of Ferrari and the 10 years of Ferrarista in a very good atmosphere. A birthday cake was even planned, giving us the opportunity to all sing together! The restaurant was excellent and the pouring rain, with many flashes, dissuaded the majority to continue the evening at the Ferrari show in Fiorano. It was broadcast on TV on the Rai. Jamiroquai, a great Ferrari enthusiast, sang 5 songs at the end of the show.     The 500 Ferrari Rally   Back in Fiorano on Sunday morning, we take the opportunity to see the 500 Ferrari from the rally that arrived the day before. They put the atmosphere in the street accessing Fiorano the day before, to the delight of the Tifosi who do not have access to the festivities at Fiorano.  
    Of the 500 Ferrari, 95% are modern: several LaFerrari, dozens of Ferrari F12 TDF, many of the 350 Ferrari "tailor made" produced for the 70th bityhday of Ferrari, Ferrari 488, 458 Speciale, ... Extremely rare were the Ferrari 308/328/348 / F355 or the Testarossa / 512TR. But when you are passionate about Ferrari, it's a dream to detail all these cars, according to their combinations of colors and options, that give you ideas.     Two members of Ferrarista who participated in the rally tell us that the roads, with Ferrari everywhere, were magnificent, and that the hotels and restaurants were very good. Two problems were reported. First of all, the roadbook provided stopped at Parma, so they did not know how to get to Maranello. That's why they arrived in scattered order and that there was no parade of the 500 Ferrari of the rally in Maranello. Too bad for the tifosi. Then the Ferrari were to stay in Fiorano on Saturday night and the owners were brought by bus to their hotel in Parma, more than an hour's drive. It's long.     Visits to Ferrari, Pagani, Maserati and Lamborghini factories and museums
    Not being certain we could participate in much of the festivities for the 70th anniversary, we had booked a number of visits to factories and museums. We were thus assured not to make the trip for nothing.  
    We visited the manufacture of Hublot watches, on our way to Maranello. Then the Maserati factory, the Pagani factory and museum, the Ferrari concession in Modena, the Maserati collection in Panini, the Ferrari museum in Modena, the Lamborghini museum in Sant'Agata Bolognese, the Scaglietti coachbuilder and the Ferrari factory, as well as the Ferrari Museum in Maranello. This makes you a relatively busy schedule, in which you do not get bored, interspersed with meals in excellent restorants related to Ferrari's history.    
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    Were you advised to first look for the mechanic who will maintain your Ferrari before finding the Ferrari of your dreams? It is a good idea because its maintenance and history will be paramount so that your experience does not turn into a nightmare. And good specialists are rare, very rare. Finding the right one can take longer than finding the right Ferrari.
    So where do Ferrari owners go to do their routine maintenance? Which types of garages are preferred? By reading the forums, you might think that many are doing their own maintenance, given the number of discussions on the subject, or that official concessions, some complaining, should be avoided. But what is it actually? There is nothing better than a survey of the Ferrari owners to know the truth. And the results of this survey could be surprising.
    Survey characteristics
    The question asked to the Ferrari owners was simple: "Where do you maintain your Ferrari in 2017?". Not an exceptional intervention for which you prefer an official stamp or for a tire change, but just the annual maintenance of your Ferrari.

    Six answers were possible: in an official Ferrari dealership, in a specialized Ferrari garage, in a garage specializing in exceptional sports cars, in a non-specialized garage, in a car center, by yourself or by a friend.

    200 Ferrari owners replied (195 to be precise, at the time of the writing of this article), which represents a nice panel given the number of owners of Ferrari in France. It should be kept in mind that on Ferrarista the members are mainly first-time buyers and enthusiasts, that is to say that they reflect rather the majority of the owners of Ferrari, compared to the minority who buys new Ferrari or multi-million Ferrari.

    For more details, you can find this poll here: Click HERE to see the poll
    In an official Ferrari dealership
    One-third of Ferrarista's members carry out their revisions in an official Ferrari dealership. This may seem like a lot to you, if like me you regularly read on the forum feedback sometimes negative about concessions. But it should not be forgotten that on the forums people rarely intervene to say that everything is fine, and especially when they are not happy. And regarding an official Ferrari dealership, it can be expected that their level of requirement is as high as possible.

    A part of this relatively high score is explained by the fact that the Ferrari sold new since 2012 have a free maintenance contract in concession for 7 years . This contract is transmitted to the resale of your Ferrari, few buyers keeping their Ferrari for 7 years. This assures Ferrari that during 7 years the maintenance will be done in concession. This allows the owner to retain the manufacturer's warranty, which is often extended for a fee (Power Warranty).

    Another part of the score is explained by the fact that many owners think about resale: the official stamp of a Ferrari dealers reassures the future buyer. For him, this stamp means that it is not a stranger who worked on this Ferrari, it is someone trained by the factory. The official standards of the mark were respected, with original parts. Traceability of the interventions on this Ferrari is then ensured by the Ferrari network.

    The survey does not go down in this level of detail, but you can expect that the score achieved by official Ferrari dealerships would be much higher if it were only for the recent Ferraris, those less than 10 years old, for example.

    Ferrari Specialist
    The Ferrari specialists' score is the same as the concessions, which is a good score. Often these workshops are run by people who have worked in official Ferrari dealerships. They know the models well, were trained by the factory and kept links with the concessions (for the purchase of parts in particular).

    Their advantage is that their tariffs are lower than those of an official concession and that they can offer a customized service à la carte, which is not permitted by the industrialization of concessions. They may spend more time solving a complex outage or adjusting small details (such as a squeak heard at a particular location) that annoy an owner but take time to resolve.

    Ferrari specialists also offer the advantage of being closer geographically than concessions, which for some owners are several hundred kilometers away. This is not practical.
    Exceptional sports specialist
    Specialists in exceptional sports won 16% of the vote, which is half the size of the official Ferrari dealerships or Ferrari specialists. It is a good score because the Ferrari are very technically sharp. It is necessary to have the specific equipment (suitcase for example for electronics).

    This good score is probably explained in part because the owners of Ferrari have mostly owned other sports before. If they know a good specialist, they keep it . Good addresses are rare. If they have seen regular Ferraris in maintenance with this specialist, they remain there with less apprehension.

    There is also the case of owners of Ferrari who own several cars, a small collection, for which all maintenance is carried out at the same specialist of confidence.

    Unlike the official Ferrari dealerships, you might expect that the specialist score (Ferrari specialists or specialists in exceptional sports) would be even more important if this poll focused on the old Ferraris, those of more than 15 Or 20 years for example.
    Non-specialized garage
    The score achieved by non-specialized garages is 2.75%. This is a low but logical score: Ferrari are sharp cars that require specific skills and experience. You can imagine that the owners who carry out maintenance of their Ferrari in a non-specialized garage do so because they know the garage very well and / or because their Ferrari is old and does not require the current technology. They will rather be owners who wish to keep their Ferrari, who do not need the stamp of a dealership to reassure a buyer, and just wish for a job well done at the best price.

    Center car
    The choice of car center had been added in this survey a bit like a provocation: car centers are widely used in the world of car maintenance but you do not think of it to maintain your Ferrari! The score is very low at 0.55%, which seems logical. But the exception exists, as do the competent car centers.
    You or a friend
    16% of the owners of Ferrari indicated to carry out the routine maintenance of their Ferrari themselves or by a friend. This means 1 owner out of 6, which is a significant score.

    Carrying out routine maintenance, in this case an annual review, remains relatively easy. We would not have the same score for more complicated procedures, such as changing belts with engine removal, for example. Even though tutorials made by owners who have done so are relatively numerous on the forum.

    A forum naturally attracts more owners who have technical questions , because they do some operations themselves. This population can therefore be over-represented in this survey, compared to all Ferrari owners.

    This figure also reflects the share of older Ferrari owners who are easier to maintain, and that you keep longer because you are less attracted by the acquisition of the latest novelty.
    In short, one-third of the owners go on concessions, one-third to a Ferrari specialist, and the remaining third go to a specialist in exceptional cars and half to self-made work. Prior to this survey, were you expecting such a distribution? Which score surprised you the most? What other reasons do you see for explaining the results?
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    The Ferrari F430 appeared in 2005 as an evolution of the Ferrari 360 Modena, with among others a new and much more powerful engine and a chain of distribution. It is very sought after because, with about ten years, its price is relatively stable, while remaining modern and without too much expenses related to its age.
    What should you know about the Ferrari F430 before buying one? The best is always to have the return of owners who drove with this model for years. Guillaume84 is a member of Ferrarista.club who has had the pleasure of driving in Ferrari F430 in recent years. He even added a Ferrari 348 since.

    Franck : What is your history with cars and why did you choose the Ferrari F430?
    Guillaume84 : Hi Franck, my return about my automotive history is pretty fast. The only "sporting car" I had was the Fiat Stylo Abarth, with the 5-cylinder 170 hp and the robotic box. Otherwise I rode with my brother in his cars, with among others the mythical Peugeot 205 GTI 130 cv. So you see, pretty restricted.
    In fact, at the beginning, I was not stopped at all on the Ferrari F430 but on the 360 Modena or the 348, which were more accessible to my purse. I went to see the famous 348 which was scrapped, that everyone knows now, and on the forum I was clearly advised against it as a first purchase because of 3 they made one, they said ....
    So I searched for Ferrari 360 Modena and "people" told me to pay attention to the clutch on the first models ... Bla bla bla. On the advice of my brother, he said "wait a bit and look for a Ferrari F430, plus no belt to change on it". So here I go in search of a Ferrari F430 in France and Italy.
    Franck : What were your criteria for purchasing a Ferrari F430 and how did you find it?
    Guillaume84 : Simple criteria, red or yellow, black leather interior with matching stitching. I did not even know that there existed ceramic breaks, carbon bucket seats, etc. etc.
    So on Autoscout I put a search and almost immediately I found this one, and the config tapped me in the eye, to the point that I dreamed of it the night. So after long exchanges by mail, to have the invoices, papers etc. etc, I made the trip to Turin to see it at the private seller. We agreed and the dream came true!

    Franck :  Immediately after the purchase, what has the most impressed you on your Ferrari F430?
    Guillaume84 : Oh my god, it's a Ferrari! No, it's MY Ferrari!
    When it is your first prestige car, besides the myth, everything is beautiful and perfect, even the impacts of gravel do not bother;)
    Otherwise surprised by the engine and the atmosphere on board, the smell and the sensations.
    Franck :  With hindsight, what are the good sides of your copy of Ferrari F430 and the possible problems or defects encountered?
    Guillaume84 : It was not perfect, impacts of gravel and friction on the front bumper. But the red carpets still had their delivery plastic, despite the 30,000 km of the car, so it was pampered.
    The only mechanical defect was encountered during an exit with the cars and coffee south, with the rupture of a hose of the F1 box and it forced me to stop and have the car repatriated to a specialist well known here . Besides thanks to the forum for having made his acquaintance!

    Franck : Can you talk about the costs incurred for normal use of a Ferrari F430?
    Guillaume84 : The costs, if you have only the current to do, it's not much in relation to the car it is. And of course, if one has the right foot heavy or not. As an example, the Pirelli tires that I put a year after having the car, when adding the Ferrari 430 Scuderia rims, I kept them more than 20,000 km.
    I changed the clutch after 6 months and 6,000 km in preventive, like all the hoses of the F1 box, so as not to have worries on that side. Since that, it is a revision per year and I use the car. I ride less than the first year because since the famous 348 joined the nest.
    So to summarize and make short, it is roughly for 3,000 km per year a revision of 1,000 euros and 1,200 euros insurance, excluding mechanical problems and big intervention.
    Franck : What if you had to do it again?
    Guillaume84 : I might do the same thing with a different search. Because now I know more about the Ferrari market and the options available on this model. And surely I would head to a more sporty model like the Ferrari Challenge Stradale or the Ferrari 430 Scuderia.
    A big THANK YOU to Guillaume84 for sharing all this information! If you have any questions about the Ferrari F430, please leave a comment. If you have one and want to add details, you can also use the comments.
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    For the sixth year in a row, Pour la sixième année consécutive, Ferrarista members have offered to have a ride in their Ferrari, at Le Havre, to raise money for a good cause. Many thanks to Joël, JMJ61, AzScud, JMM91, BossProtection, Pierrebx, Trafalgar, Ferdelance76, nanfer28, Guillaume ... for the many rides performed on Saturday the 17th of September at the Docks Vauban at Le Havre. The cause sustained this year was France Alzeihmer 76 that help people with Alzeihmers disease.   Parisian convoy   Appointment was taken, for Ferrarista members leaving Paris, on Saturday morning at 8:30 am on the first rest stop after the toll of Mantes-la-Jolie. Rinding together, with a dozen Ferrari before you and in your mirrors, is always a rare pleasure, which allows a great start for a meeting. It also allows participants to meet before the event really starts, which facilitates the integration into the group. A convoy also avoids that some people have trouble finding the precise location of the event. In short, a departure in convoy has many advantages !     Once there, we had to proceed to the inscriptions. These formalities are essential to ensure the smooth running of the event, with only owners who have a license, insurance, a plan of the circuit ... It is the opportunity to retrieve the tickets for lunch and discuss with representatives of the beneficiary association of the operation, France Alzheimer this year.   The rides   Amongst the cars, a high diversity was proposed by the members of Ferrarista: from the Ferrari 458 Speciale to the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, through the Ferrari 430 Scuderia, Ferrari F430 and F430 Spider, Ferrari 360 Modena, Ferrari F355 and Ferrari 348. But the other marquees were not forgottel, for even more variety, with an Audi R8 V10, a Corvette Z06 or a Porche 911 Cabriolet, for example.   After the first offered rides in the dry, allowing to discover the circuit, it's time for lunch. It's a complete menu that was offered in the Pizzria Del'Arte, whose wiondows overlooked our Ferrari. Tomato mozzarella, pizza or pasta choice, tiramisu or dessert sampler, a coffee and a drink : we remain in Italy and the food is good after getting up so early. The restaurant owner came to see us to discuss : he's a Ferrarista member!     The afternoon is the heart of the action. From 2:00 pm to 6:00 pm the rain falls, making the road wet and candidates for a ride are rare. Usually we did lots of rides without stopping, this time it was a fight to ge tsomeone for a ride in your car. The funds raised will be lower this year, but the smiles of the children, happy to ride in a Ferrari, were there. The slightest affluence has also allowed some parents to offer 4 or 5 rides to their children. Even though the money raised is not yet knpwn, it wil help people with Alzheimer's disease.   Evening meeting with members of Ferrarista   At 6:00 pm a cocktail was offered, always behind the windows of Pizzeria Del'Arte, allowing to lokk at our cars. The presidents of the two local Lions Clubs took the oppotunity to thank all the drivers. Throughout the event, many announcements at the micro had indicated that the pilots were volunteers and paid their gas, because general public don't know it and sometimes they think they are paid.   At 8:80 pm we went to the Les Régates restaurant on the harbor of Le Havre. A maritime atmosphere in the marina, around a good meal, allowed the members to disccus about their day and to better know each other.     Cruising on the côte fleurie   A cruising on the côte fleurie, particulary between Le Havre and Deauville, through Honfleur, was organised on Sunday the 18th of September in the morning to allow the members of Ferrarista coming from afar to spend a whole weekend there and have more time to meet.   The sun in the Sunday morning was good after the rain of the previous day and allowed convertibles to drop their hood. In Deauville, all the present members enjoyed a coffee taken on the boards of the famous beach of Deauville.   This cruising ended with a lunch at the Country Club of Le Havre. This restaurant offers not only quality food, but also a magnificent view of the city of Le Havre and the whole Seine bay. Ideal to finish off this weekend passed together and to give the will to come back next year!     Results   The rain kept us to achieve as many rides as in the previous years. We discussed about it with the members of the Lions Clubs that organize this event and communication around this event should be strengthened to address this case. The cruising on the Côte Fleurie will probably go to Etretat next year.   Were you present for the sixth edition of our charity event with our Ferrari in Le Havre? What did you like most? Will you be present next year?  
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    24 members went from the 16th until the 21st of May 2016 on a trip to Maranello and the Mille Miglia with Ferrarista.club. In the program, visits to the factories and museums of the Terra di motori around Modena (Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, Pagani), the legendary Mille Miglia race, but also good Italian restaurants linked to Ferrari ... among others. What have they lived, seen, shared during that week? Why has it also been discussed about the LaFerrari Spider, just announced, and about Fernando Alonso? You'll find out later in this article.
    The meetings and the atmosphere
    Guillaume84, Oliv, Laelankar, Askim, Kani56, Camille, 308 GT4, Pascal71, Eric77, Pierre, CharlyBoy, Denis360 and their companions were on this trip. This is an opportunity to meet other members of Ferrarista living at the other side of the country. The group is restricted to 12 Ferrari maximum in order for everybody to discuss together and for the atmosphere to be excellent from the start. Some lend their Ferrari, jokes fuse, assistance is omnipresent. This is a week that changes you from the ordinary.

    Within a week around Maranello, meetings are numerous: Jacky Ickx at the Mille Miglia, Safet Rastoder at the Ristorante Cavallino ... but the most extraordinary was to find Fernando Alonso at the Ristorante Montana during our farewell dinner. Very friendly, he agreed to pose for a photo with everyone in our group. A superb keepsake for all!
    The visits of the Ferrari and Maserati factories were achieved through the Modena Sport concession in Toulouse. We first visited the Carrozzeria Scaglietti where the bodies of all the Ferrari are assembled. They are then sent to the Maranello factory to be painted then be returned to the assembly lines. The main highlight was the discovery of the Ferrari LaFerrari Spider! Hardly announced a week ago, we were among the first in the world to see it and to view that the gullwing doors were preserved. The director told us that 130 copies will be produced, validating it with a phone call. Nobody has broadcasted this figure. Parts of the carbon body are carried out by the Scuderia Ferrari, as in Formula 1.

    Another interesting detail: when a customer orders the carbon blades (blade on the rear vents) on the Ferrari 488, they are first in aluminum body. It is only later, on the assembly line, that they are replaced by carbon, after the paint has been finished. On the paint chain, they don't know not to paint blades only for those who are in carbon.

    We then visited the assembly line of V8 and V12, the interior assembly plant, assembly of engines (V6, V8 and V12), the machining of engine parts, F1 Clienti (tens of F1 belonging to customers ), the program XX (tens of FXX, 599XX and FXX K with a matt black) ... the big news was the visit of the Scuderia Ferrari in its new buildings. We could see the 5 F1 mounting box, going to the Grand Prix of Monaco, the part quality control, and the engine and electric areas. The old buildings of the Scuderia Ferrari are now destroyed and a new construction project is underway but our guide did not know what.
    At the Maserati factory in Modena, we visited the production lines of the Maserati GranTurismo and GranCabrio, but also Alfa Romeo 4C Spider and 4C. A magnificent registered Maserati MC12 Corsa, in blue, welcomes us in the showroom. I also noted the Alfa Romeo 4C equiped with an Akrapovic exhaust  (two central tailpipes instead of pots on each end) and a beautiful Alfa Romeo 4C white with a black roof and beautiful rims. On the chain, most of the Alfa Romeo 4C produced were red or white.

    We learned that the factory in Modena is now a development center for the sports models of the Fiat group. We noticed numerous Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio Verde and Maserati Levante tests on roads around Modena but they will not be produced in the region. We find them in the Maserati factory that develops them.

    At Pagani, we still have two factories to visit: the former, which includes the showroom and the production of carbon parts and the new, where they assemble the Pagani. A museum, a new showroom under construction and the whole activity should be moved to the new factory by July.

    In the showroom are present, this time, the Pagani Zonda "nonna" and a beautiful yellow Pagani Huyara, with a black interior and yellow stitching. The "Nonna", which means "grandmother" in Italian has been driven 1 million kilometers. This is the chassis number 2 on which all changes to the Pagani Zonda have been tested over the years, before being put into production.

    In the assembly area, we find ten Pagani, among which a Pagani Zonda whose owner requested an upgrade to the latest version of the Pagani Zonda. Cost of the operation: € 2 million. We also find, among the more exotic specimens, a purple carbon Pagani Huyara with pistachio inside. It is intended for an Asian customer.
    The novelty we hear about at Lamborghini throughout the visit is the Lamborghini SUV! The Lamborghini Urus is placed right at the entrance of the museum with the LM002 very near. Previously the LM002 was hidden at the bottom! It's a sign ! This SUV will be produced from 2018. A new building for its production lines is being built behind the existing buildings. Maybe a car park will be added for visitors, which is not a bas news, as it is difficult today for visitors but also the employees to park. At present, the Lamborghini SUV is not yet fixed: V8 or V10, rates, etc. are not known. We noticed during our visit a beautiful dark green Lamborghini Miura SV, fully restored at Lamborghini, that came out for its first laps.

    During the visit, we go through the production line of the Lamborghini Huracan and Avantador, as well as the interiors production line. For the Lamborghini Huracan, it is only assembly, all parts coming from subcontractors. The engine comes from Germany. For the Lamborghini Aventador, we visited the assembly line of the Lamborghini V12. Unlike Ferrari, the engine parts are not produced by Lamborghini.

    Mille Miglia
    The only rainy day of the trip was the one that should not be: on Thursday the departure of the Mille Miglia in Brescia! That does not stop us to admire many old cars there, rolling, being parked, smelling the same as cars of that time, and you can talk to the driver. This is much better than a museum!

    Among the Ferrari present, there were beautiful Ferrari 250 GT Coupe Boano, Ferrari 250 GT Europa, Ferrari 500 TR Spider Scaglietti (photo), Ferrari 750 Monza Spider Scaglietti, Ferrari 857S, Ferrari 250 MM Berlinetta Pininfarina, Ferrari 212 Europa Berlinetta, Ferrari 375 MM Spider Pininfarina, Vignale Berlinetta Ferrari 225S, etc.

    And it is not finished

    We also visited the Enzo Ferrari Museum in Modena, the Panini collection (former Maserati museum) in the heart of an organic farm, the famous Toni Auto, which restores and maintain superb old Ferrari, the old town center of Modena, etc.

    If you were present during this trip, what impressed you the most? What stories would you add? If you were not there, what details would you like to know? Will you be present at the next trip?
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    What is today the market for the Ferrari 360 Modena and the Ferrari F430? What rates should you expect? Are they going up or down? On Ferrarista.club we follow their evolution since 2010, allowing you to get a significant history to detect trends.
    Reminder on the methodology of the study
    The data presented in this study are, for the French market, from the site La Centrale and, for the European market, from the site Autoscout24. They offer the greatest number of Ferrari ads on each of these markets. Replicas of Ferrari, wrecked cars, imports from the United States ... are removed from the published figures, as any questionable deals at extremely low or high prices, which would not be representative of the market and distord the data. The minimum and maximum rates are present only for information. It is the median price in bold which is representative of the market. This is thes price asked in the ads, not the actual sales prices, which are not known but inevitably lower. Changes in prices are representative of market trends.

    The market for Ferrari 360 Modena (1999-2005):
    While prices for the Ferrari 360 Modena followed a logical decline since 2010 (latest model), their rates have increased since one year and a half. This increase was global on Ferrari and vintage cars. The rates have not doubled as for other models, but they are still 22% higher than in 2014.

    You may notice that some people attempt rates never seen before, for instance 159,990 euros requested for a Ferrari 360 Spider. It is true that this copy has only 4000 kilometers on the odometer.

    Regarding the number of copies being for sale, it continues to decline, as often with a model that is becoming older. This means, as members are writing on the Ferrarista.club forum, that it is increasingly difficult to find a nice copy with a complete history and the options of your choice.
    Ferrari 360 Modena 1999-2005 Number France Min.
 France Median France Max. 
France Number Europe Min.
 Europe Median
 Europe Max.
 Europe January 2010 100 60 000 85 000 125 000 314 37 950 87 000 148 480 April 2010 125 

56 990 85 000 125 000 580 51 000 80 000 160 000 September 2010 129 

58 900 75 500 119 000 500 42 950 78 500 148 480
 Janujary 2011 131 

54 900 79 000 114 900 469 42 950 74 500 148 480 December 2012 138 

47 000 62 900 89 000 403 35 000 60 000 148 480 August 2013 88 40 000 59 400 80 900 N.A. N.A. N.A. N.A. August 2014 68 

43 900 57 280 89 900 N.A. N.A. N.A. N.A. April 2016 55 

49 000 69 990 159 990 254 48 950 72 000 148 480
    The market for Ferrari F430 (2005-2009):
    While the prices of the Ferrari 360 Modena rose 22% from a year and a half that of the Ferrari F430 has increased "only" 8%. Good news if you bought the Ferrari F430 in 2012: rates have remained the same. You could almost sell it at the same price than purchased.

    Note that the prices are higher for manual transmission versions, which is a recent phenomenon. As seen with the Ferrari 360 Modena, the "speculative" increases only recently touched these models compared to other Ferrari, but some copies are at crazy prices (see max column.). But are there really buyers at this price, which is that of a Ferrari 430 Scuderia?

    Regarding the Ferrari 430 Scuderia, on LaCentrale you have only 35 ads for the Ferrari F430 but 25 for the Ferrari 430 Scuderia, much less produced (roughly 7 times less). Are there many owners who wish to enjoy the significant increase on the Ferrari 430 Scuderia by selling their copy?

    As for the Ferrari 360 Modena, the ads are increasingly rare, though still significant volumes for a Ferrari. It becomes increasingly difficult to find a nice copy with specific options.
    Ferrari F430 2005-2009 Number France Min.
 France Median France Max. 
France Number Europe Min.
 Europe Median
 Europe Max.
 Europe January 2010 150 91 500 140 000 194 900 491 86 700 140 000 255 850 April 2010 171 89 900 131 000 180 000 957 78 000 130 000 239 200 September 2010 175 91 900 129 000 199 900 843 89 500 129 000 239 200
 January 2011 177 79 500 124 000 199 900 498 79 500 119 900 217 000 December 2012 219 69 900 93 600 139 900 723 53 000 95 000 185 000 August 2013 113 64 900 86 000 139 500 N.A. N.A. N.A. N.A. August 2014 106 

56 900 87 400 127 900 N.A. N.A. N.A. N.A. April 2016 35 70 000 94 500 195 000 282 60 000 98 000 200 000  

    What thoughts inspire you those numbers on the prices of the Ferrari 360 Modena and the Ferrari F430 over the last 6 years? Do they reflect your impressions of the market and its evolutions? Do you think the prices for the Ferrari 360 Modena will continue to rise? And how do you believe the prices for the Ferrari F430 could evolve?

    A big THANK YOU to sbnormand for figures for 2013 and 2014.
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    What are the best advices you could receive to buy your Ferrari 308 or 328 ? Without any doubt, it would be advices from owners who could tell you about their experience. After reviewing all the versions of the Ferrari 308 and 328, and then their cosmetic aspects, in the two previous articles, TripleBlack®, Speedy, Sebino, Yves and ScuderiaCH will now give you their buying advices. You will learn what to look for on each model, their known issues, and you will get a check-list to use when looking at an interesting copy.
    A. General and numbers
    Ferrari 308s are reliable cars with reasonable maintenance costs for this brand if maintenance is performed correctly and according to the period manufacturer's recommendations. In all cases, priority should be given to a car with a clear history that can trace its maintenance history for the past 10 years at least. Then, it will be possible to appreciate whether the maintenance has been thoroughly done or not because for a car that is now more than 30 years old, some restoration can be expected to have taken place on most of the car unless you find a model in an exemplary condition. Such cars do exist but are becoming increasingly scarce, furthermore, paint on fiberglass bodies is reputed not to age very well. If this might be hoped to be cosmetically, caution must be exercised for the engine and all undercarriage parts: seals and bushings do not have an infinite life. Life begins at 30 ? Yes, but not for rubber !

    If the car still has its warranty book, the chassis’ number is written on the first page; it is also engraved on the rear right side of the engine compartment, on the nameplate at the same location and also on the top of the steering wheel column. On most Ferrari 328 (except the very first cars), it is further repeated in etching on the windows of the car, followed by three letters.

    Engine and chassis numbers are not related. Given today’s communication policy of Ferrari SpA, it is difficult to ascertain if this is the original engine mounted in this frame by the factory or not.

    There is also another number generally stamped on the oil cooler bracket on the left of the engine compartment, which indicates the order of assembly, or « Assembly number ». It shows specifically the car's order in the production line and this position is not strictly linked to its chassis numbers, especially at the time of the fiberglass / steel transition.
    B. Ferrari 308 GTB/S and 308 GT4
    B.1. Known issues of the Ferrari 308 GTB/S

    Engine : The engine is generally reliable when proper maintenance can be ascertained. It is customary to replace the timing belts and tensioner bearings according to the manufacturer's recommendations. It is a simple and inexpensive operation (it is not necessary to remove the engine for this on this model) compared to the damage that may occur should they break. Two-valve engines have exhaust valves filled with sodium to dissipate heat. As they age, we read that they can sometimes get brittle, but it seems very rare. Valve guides wear may occur sometime; this seems due to unleaded gasoline use resulting in excessive oil use. This is a strong engine the difference between the least powerful of the 308 and 328 is only 25%, therefore the engine has development potential. The most common change in search for more power is to increase capacity to 3.4 litre, reworking bore and stroke, with new pistons and a 360 crank, with more specific camshafts. In conclusion, when researching a future car, it is advised to look for an engine that has been regularly run (long immobilization can be very expensive) and has been adequately maintained. Frame : The carrier trellis, made up of large tubes is very strong and resists corrosion. A review on a lift will allow detection of major repairs consecutive to an accident. Anyway, during the road test, you have to be careful (and suspicious!) of any path deviation. Many first generation models were « upgraded » with 16" wheels instead of their regular 14” equipment. Aesthetically, it's not bad but finding a set of 14" wheels is not simple, and in any case expensive.

    Electricity : There, the picture is less funny, especially on carbureted cars ! It's Italian, old time ... that said, although annoying, these problems are usually not very expensive in their consequences (many  peripheral elements come from the Fiat organ bank !). Note mainly (but small « fantasies » are innumerable): the power windows have motors that are not powerful enough and mounted with cables and pulleys. It is necessary to clean the old grease, often hardened with time, with a solvent, and replace it with lithium grease. We see the same problem with the engine wiper. Some replace fuse boxes with aftermarket parts that have a reputation of giving the system more performance. The advantage is that this is completely reversible. The lighting is "confidential". Should you really need at night, a small change with introduction of relays and taking the power more directly from the battery greatly improves things. In addition, this reduces the wear on the stalk which in this case, only serves to control the relay. Here too, the operation is completely reversible.

    Clutch : Before the change of the clutch mechanism in 1980, the clutch is reputed to be very stiff and tiring. However, it is relatively robust and it is not uncommon to do 30 000 Miles before replacement.
    Transmission : The gearbox is deemed to be reluctant to accept the 2nd gear when cold. There is no known real improvement available other than using a more suitable oil. The « o » ring seal on the shift shaft leak over time and the engine oil can flow into the gearbox. This causes an oil quantity above the recommended level which is easy to identify. Better rings can then be mounted to prevent new problem.

    Cooling : Cooling may seem inadequate, but problems often result from poor maintenance. Especially on low-mileage cars, pipes had ample time for clogging. Replacement costs little ( piping by the meter, with the exception of a right angle at the radiator entrance). Check the radiator core, fans, thermostat, thermal switch and bleed the circuit. With the engine in the rear and radiator in the front, and the difference in height minimal, bleeding is not easy: the system must be bleeded at both ends. And this is not possible on the first engines that have no bleed valve on the thermostat. The water pump should be monitored regularly; it is fragile on these models.

    Air Conditioning : Air Conditioning is designed for Freon (R-12) which is no longer available, but some owners convert to R134a. This is a less efficient fluid, but the charge is cheaper. Substittution by a Sanden compressor, more effective than the original Aspera is possible (some say the Aspera is incompatible with the R134). Suspension : Original rubber suspension bushings and dampers must be changed every 50 000km. Check if cracked or chipped. This is a very common problem.

    Ignition : The first cars have points ignition and electronic ignition appeared during 1977.

    Body : The steel on the carbed 308 was not rust-proofed therefore monitor the apparition of rust at the bottom of the doors (lower external and internal part at the joint), on the lower body notably behind the wheel arches. The doors can also rust inside (including on the fiberglass cars whose inner door frame is made of steel) due to a sealing of the window not very tight and water may collect in the bottom of the door if the drain holes are blocked. At the bottom of the windshield where water stagnates, at the junction of the sail panel and the rear wing, under the rear license plate and along the beltline gutter. Since 1981, the sheets are galvanized and treatment improves further in 1984. Roof Seals on GTS.

    Interior and tools : The interior materials are generally of average quality and finish. Imitation leather dashboard is often a bit « cooked » by the heat in the cabin in the summer and often has cracks (or more). Make sure the car is complete with all its period accessories, spare wheel (« pancake » spare wheel badged « Dino » on European 308, standard full size wheel on exports), jack (3 parts), tool kit (including 14mm spark plug tool), gauges, lights, emergency lamp, emergency crank windows, owner’s pouch with manuals. For GTS, roof cover. Check the long zip on the vinyl boot cover that protects luggage and the one on the spare wheel cover.
    B.2. Specific points to watch the Ferrari 308 GT4

    Some parts have become very hard to find such as lights, metal bands around the bumpers, the polyester molding that supports the fiber shroud under the bonnet which supports the spare wheel. Do prefer a car with intact door panels, as these were often cut to put loudspeakers.
    B.3. Customers changes on Ferrari 308

    - Aftermarket fusebox.
    - 328 water pump.
    - Aluminum toothed wheel for timing belts.
    - Exhaust, headers (originally stainless steel) and silencer (originally stainless steel).
    - 16" wheel for the carbureted 308 .
    - Racing brakes and calipers (only for 16" wheels).
    - Electronic injection changed to MSD or Electromotive type.
    - Larger diameter rear anti-roll bar.
    - Changing the heater fans from the back of the radiator.
    - Windows accelerators.
    C. Ferrari 328
    C.1. Known issues on the Ferrari 328

    Engine : The engine of the 328 is robust, and if the maintenance was carried out according to the factory recommendation, it should reach 100 000 Miles before requiring reconstruction. Oil consumption should be monitored; it should not be above the manufacturer's recommendations; the engine block should be inspected for leaks. The K-Jetronic Bosch injection is generally reliable if the circuit is clean and not clogged with impurities (a risk with cars stopped for a long time with their fuel in their tanks, which may decompose). Exhaust manifolds can crack or break, they should be inspected from time to time. If looking for a car, it would be, as usually preferable to choose a car with an engine that has been run regularly. A car that has just been re-started after a long sleep may appear capricious.
    In conclusion, during the search of a vehicle, cars with an engine that has been regularly run should be favored (long immobilization can be very expensive) and has been well maintained.
    Ignition : The leads and extensions have to be checked to avoid « hot spots », burns (blackened extensions). Some 328 can be moisture sensitive.
    Clutch : It is relatively robust, the change occurs in principle « about 40 000 Miles ».
    Transmission : The box is deemed reluctant to engage the 2nd gear when cold, although it may depend form car to car, the second gear should not be engaged by force as long as the gearbox oil is cold this will destroy the synchros; go from first directly to third if the gearbox oil is not hot. There is no known real improvement available other than using a more suitable oil.
    Cooling : Cooling of the 328 has been improved compared to its cousins / predecessors, and whatever the traffic conditions, a healthy 328 does not heat at all. The cooling circuit is notoriously difficult to bleed fully, as « air pockets » or « bubbles » form in the high points; this can cause coolant « spurts » through the overflow tube of the expansion tank. It is always advised before bleeding the coolant circuit, and after completing coolant, or when retrieving the car after revision, to run the first few tens kilometers with the heater circuit fully open, because this « parallel circuit » often retains air pockets. The water pump must be monitored regularly because it is fragile on these cars.
    Air Conditioning : Air conditioning is generally marginal on these cars; it was also originally designed for Freon or R-12 which is now prohibited; adaptation to R134a is usually less effective in providing cold air, and the hoses originally designed for R-12 are not perfectly sealed to the smaller R-134a molecules. In contrast, as the car produces large quantities of hot air, in winter heating is very effective.
    Efficient use of the windows and windshield defrost through hot air, however, requires some practise.
    Suspension : Original rubber suspension bushings and dampers must be changed every 30 000 Miles. Check if cracked or chipped. This is a very common problem.
    Body : The first 328s left the production chain a year and a half after adoption of the « Zincrox » rust-proofing process; their steel panels are therefore protected against corrosion; this does not preclude that some points should be monitored, as the folded « lip » around the semi-circle of the wheel arch in the fenders. As for the 308, water may tend to accumulate in the doors; make sure that the two drain holes in the bottom of each door are open (thereby also check for the presence of the door seal, frequently absent or sagging).
    Electricity : The electrical system is not generally the highlight of a Ferrari from this period, but that of the 328 is « relatively satisfactory »; power windows are not very fast, but motivate less complaints than 308.
    However, it must:
    - Check the control stalks for headlights and wipers: not only should these be fully functional make sure there are not too « loose » with too much play and that the bakelite not turn freely on the stalk.
    - Check electric mirrors servomotors; note that new switches are very difficult to find; check the operation of all electrical controls in the center console and in particular the illumination of the
    « LEDs » for ventilation and heating.
    - It is essential to check very closely and with great care both front fog lights (the two optical blocks that are at the left and right of the front grill and serve as flashing lights) and make sure they are not broken or cracked, as these fog light are now very difficult to find and therefore very expensive to replace.
    Interior and tools : Make sure the car is complete: with spare wheel (« pancake » on European cars, full size wheel on some exports), its hold-down bolt; the jack kit (3 parts), including the small magnetic lamp, tool roll (including the 14mm combination wrench to fit the 12mm spark plug wrench (and not 14mm plug as for 308) , gauges, lights, owner’s pouch with manuals. For GTS, roof cover. Check the large zippered canvas that protects the luggage compartment and its long zipper.

    C.2. Customers changes on Ferrari 328
    - Exhaust, manifolds (originally stainless steel) and silencer (originally stainless steel).
    - Wheel 17" and 18" from Compomotive, depending on the suspension (series1 / series2).
    - Carburetors kits for nostalgic.
    - Transparent roof for GTS called Saratoga Top.
    D. Checklist for your visit

    Checking the numbers
    - Chassis number (is the one on the right rear engine strut identical to the one on the steering column plate ?) :
    - Engine number :
    - Paint color label in the middle of the rear hood for carburetors car, near licence plate light for later 308 :
    Checking the dates
    - Last belt replacement (particularly timing belts) :
    - Last oil replacement, spark plugs change:
    - Geometry adjustment:
    - Full service history, invoices :
    - Consistency between warranty card/ maintenance bills / Odometer :
    Interior control
    - Headliner top :
    - Imitation leather of the dashboard :
    - Floor Mats and rear bulkhead (lifting carpets) :
    - Seats :
    - Trunk and spare tire (early models) cover zips :
    - Rubber on doors and windows (supple and not damaged ?) :
    - Comprehensive test of all electrics (especially power windows and headlights pods) :
    - Test the air conditioning :
    - Check the fuse table :
    - Check seat belts :
    - Antenna on the rear right fender and pre radio fittings :
    - Spare wheel :
    - Tools within the two kits :
    - Tool roll: carburetor key, set of 8 wrenches (6 to 22) pliers (180 mm), screwdriver (120 mm), screwdriver (150 mm), Phillips screwdriver (4 mm) Phillips screwdriver (5.9 mm), spark plugs wrench :
    - Jack bag: Yellow jack parallelogram jack, alternator belt, compressor belt AC, warning triangle, set of fuses, set of light bulbs, 2 spark plugs :
    - Emergency crank (windows) :
    - Emergency light :
    - Key locking doors :
    - Opening of the hoods :
    - Shock traces inside the front hood :
    - Oil in Water :
    - Water in oil :
    Control from outside
    - Alignment of the doors :
    - Check the wear on door hinges, their frictionless operation :
    - Verification of the opening of front and rear hood. Ensure that the main system and the backup work both (each hood has a backup loop / handle in case the main cable breaks; these loops are under the left edge of the dashboard for the front hood and behind the upper part of the driver's seat belt for the rear one) :
    - Inspection of the body in search of rust bubbles (doors, rocker panels, waistline, under the seal of the windshield, around the front hood where aluminum is mounted on a steel frame, even on the fiberglass cars) :
    - Is the car still in original paint or not :
    - Wheels: check the condition of the rims, scratches, bumps, etc… as some are hard to find and therefore expensive :
    - Wheel bolts, look carefully if they are bitten by rust, or if the chromium is not chipped; if it is, it will be changed, which means finding a new set (expensive, especially as original parts) or used (rare) or have them re-chromed :
    - Tires (check symmetrical wear ?) :
    - Scratch on the windows :
    - Inspection of rubber :
    - Badges :
    Control the underside
    - Signs of re-painting, beware of a chassis that has been supposedly treated and protected, it can hide a major repair :
    - Check corrosion on the door sills and wheel arches :
    - Drips of oil, water, brake fluid (check calipers), oil loss from the shock absorbers :
    - Control the front and rear “cradles” of the chassis: Accident symptoms: welding of tubes :
    - Shock absorbers + running gear: rubber seals control of the ball joints / joints :
    - Play in the wheels :
    - Brake discs condition:
    - Exhaust :
    - Water hoses :
    - Leaks of the water pump :
    Checking the engine bay
    - State of all hoses :
    - Check the play and the condition of belts :
    - Check for signs of leaks on the water box :
    - Check for leaks on the radiator (front hood) :
    - Engine cleanliness, especially between the carburetors ramps :
    - Before starting, check that the oil lamp lights at starting (on models that have one) and control of the generator :
    - Can all the gears be easily engaged without hearing crunches : - Start, cut and easy re-start :
    - Test the parking brake (usually not very effective) :
    - Operation of the fuel gauge :
    - Smoke at startup :
    - Hot Smoke :
    - Idling stability :
    - Do brake and clutch pedals after being depressed return to their level before release :
    - Second gear synchro usually reluctant, especially in the cold :
    - Course and noise of the clutch :
    - Does the car dart left or right spontaneously :
    - Braking behavior :
    - Make two loops 360° on each side and pay attention to any unusual noises :
    - Driving along a wall, note the unusual noises :
    - Steering play (dead center ?) :
    - At a 80 MpH speed, the engine has to run without a hitch :
    - Check noise and vibration when freewheeling :
    - Oil pressure >= 6 bar at 5000 rpm :
    - White smoke when accelerating (a little brown smoke is normal) :
    - Operation of fans (starting and shutdown) :
    - Check exhaust smell, oil smell or coolant smell after driving :
    You now have in your hands, with those 3 articles, a good amount of knowledge coming directly from the Ferrari 38 and 308 owners to help you reduce the risks when chossing your exemplar. A BIG THANK YOU goes to TripleBack®, Speedy, Yves and ScuderiaCH for these articles !
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